Allie Fyre Talks Chaturbate, Camming, Casting Couch & Life as a Cam Girl | Cam Girl Diaries Podcast #81

Full Episode Transcript

Getting Started in Camming

Gary Gabagool: Welcome to the Cam Girl Diaries podcast. I’m your host, Gary Gabagool. Pervert Pete, Filthy Frank, call me whatever. I don’t give a fuck.

My co-host tonight is Anja Peach. You were on the last episode, so you know how this works.

Today’s guest is Allie Fyre.

Allie Fyre: Yay!

Gary: So, how did you get started?

Allie: I started out making content on Fansly. Then I started looking into other things, doing some research, and I came across the Cam Girl Problems subreddit. I remember thinking, “What is this? I’m going to give it a shot.”

Gary: But what made you want to do it?

Allie: I was sick of my job and sick of being away from my little boy. I wanted to be home, and I was stressed the fuck out.

Gary: I can swear, right?

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: We’re a First Amendment podcast here.

Anja Peach: I totally get that, too. That’s why I got into camming, so I could be home with my son.

Allie: Yeah, it really is nice that way.

Finding Her Niche

Gary: So, you’re a couple of MILFs then, huh?

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: Is that what you promote yourself as?

Allie: Pretty much. That’s my niche. Girl-next-door stuff, too. I definitely fit into that kind of story.

Gary: Yeah, you look like a girl next door.

Allie: How long have you been in the industry?

Allie: About a year. Less than a year, really.

Gary: So, since you started Fansly until now?

Allie: Yeah. I started Fansly about two and a half years ago. I did that for almost a year, and then I started camming.

Gary: Nice. Not long at all.

Chaturbate, OnlyFans and Streaming

Gary: I saw you’re on Chaturbate. You also have an OnlyFans. Everyone should have an OnlyFans.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: Do you do a lot of streaming?

Allie: Not as much as I’d like to. I feel like it’s hard to find the time to stay online as long as I need to. But I get on at least weekly, usually a couple times a week.

Gary: So you mainly stick with Chaturbate?

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: If it works for you, why go somewhere else?

Allie: Exactly.

Gary: Which do you like better, doing porn or streaming?

Allie: I like them both for different reasons. I think I’ll do both for a while.

The Backroom Casting Couch

Gary: I saw that you’re on Backroom Casting Couch. Is that the famous couch?

Allie: It is. It’s the couch.

Gary: Oh my God. That’s crazy. How did you get on there?

Allie: I made a FetLife account, and one of the first things I saw after I made my profile was somebody posting about jobs in the adult film industry.

Gary: They’re kind of like an agent or middleman?

Allie: Yeah. One of the posts I saw described me really well. I thought, “That would actually be fun.”

So right then, I filled out the little application and messaged them. Then it was like I was booked.

Gary: They just said, “Hey, come on down”?

Allie: Pretty much.

Gary: Did they ask for pictures and talk to you on the phone? Did they make sure you wanted to do it?

Allie: Yeah. They explained everything, and it was really nice and cut and dry.

Gary: Do you talk about what you’re going to do with them beforehand?

Allie: Yeah. You go over everything from start to finish because they don’t want to have to cut a bunch of times more than they already need to.

They want you to know exactly what you’re going to do, what they’re going to do, and what you’re expected to do.

Gary: Consent and everything, right?

Allie: Yeah. They want to make sure everybody is consenting to everything.

Gary: Stack of paperwork?

Allie: Yeah.

Did the Casting Couch Change Her Career?

Gary: Did your career take off after that?

Allie: Yeah. I got a lot more followers and stuff on social media. Everything really boomed after that.

Gary: That’s the famous couch, man.

Allie: I know.

Gary: When I saw it, I was like, “Is this the original couch from the first episode?”

And they’re like, “Yep.”

Allie: Oh my God.

Gary: That’s shocking.

Allie: I know.

Gary: They’ve been around for so long, right?

Allie: Yeah. It started in the 2000s, I think.

Hot Milk and More Adult Film Work

Gary: Those clips are everywhere.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: Did you do anything else besides Backroom Casting Couch?

Allie: Yeah. I did two. The first one was Hot Milk, and I did that one in November. Then they had me come back for Backroom Casting Couch.

Gary: Oh, so they’re associated with each other?

Allie: Yeah, kind of.

Gary: Interesting. I just learned something.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: Everybody go check it out. You’re on there, and your links are on your Beacons page.

Upcoming Projects

Gary: Do you do solo stuff on your OnlyFans?

Allie: My OnlyFans is pretty new. I made it a few months ago, so I don’t have a ton of stuff on there yet.

Gary: What’s your main camming platform?

Allie: Chaturbate. I’ve tried a few others, but those are my two main ones.

Gary: Do you have anything coming up?

Allie: I do. I’m going to Chicago to do an OnlyFans collaboration next weekend.

Then the weekend after that, I’m going to do something called XXX Job Interviews. I don’t know if you’ve heard of it.

Gary: No, but that sounds hilarious.

Allie: It is. It’s a good one. You should check it out.

Gary: So what do they do? Fake interviews?

Allie: Exactly. They do fake interviews, and then you have to do what they ask you to do.

Gary: So it’s like, “You’re going to be working here. You really want this job? Then here’s what you have to do.”

Allie: Yes, exactly. But they dress you up in a costume and everything. I’ve seen superhero girls, waitresses, nurses, princesses…

Gary: That’s awesome.

Allie: I know.

Gary: So what are you going to be?

Allie: I don’t know yet. I asked because I was curious what kind of costume they were going to pick for me, but they didn’t really respond. So they’re making me wait.

Gary: Can you be a dirty waitress or something?

Allie: I could. But if you look through their Instagram or social media, they’ve done a lot. There are a bunch of different girls, each in a different costume.

Gary: They’re going to run out of costumes eventually.

Allie: That’s what I’m thinking.

How She Gets New Opportunities

Gary: How did you find Hot Milk? Did you just find them yourself?

Allie: After my scenes came out, the director reached out to me on Twitter and asked if I’d be interested. They said they’d love to have me, and I said, “Yeah, let’s do it.”

Bad Experiences and Dealing With Difficult Requests

Gary: In your first year, have you had any bad experiences? It sounds like everything has just been going up for you.

Allie: Not really. Sometimes you get someone who wants something that’s completely over the line or something really bad.

Gary: Like illegal stuff?

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: And then you have to report them?

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: You both get that kind of stuff?

Anja: Yeah.

The Weirdest Cam Girl Requests

Gary: What’s the weirdest thing anyone has ever asked you to do?

Allie: I have two.

One of them was a guy who wanted me to get hair gel and slick my hair all the way back. He wanted me to leave it down, but slick it back, and he specifically told me to use an entire bottle of gel.

I was like, “Okay.”

Gary: What?

Allie: He said he’d tip me really well. So I went and got the hair gel and did it.

Gary: That’s so weird.

Allie: I know. I thought it was different.

Gary: I mean, I guess he got off to it. Why must be the way it looks?

Allie: I asked him. I said, “So why are you so into this?”

And he said he remembered watching TV when he was younger and seeing hot models with their hair styled like that.

Gary: Oh.

Allie: I was like, “Oh.”

Gary: I want to know the psychology behind all this.

Anja: You’re curious.

Gary: Yeah, I’m curious. I’m not saying it gets me off. I’m just interested in it.

The Inflatable Fetish Request

Allie: I had another guy on LoyalFans who was the best. I loved him. He was the sweetest.

He had an inflatable fetish. In his case, it was an airplane life jacket, although apparently it can be any inflatable thing.

He ordered me a life jacket and wanted a five-minute video of me wearing a blue one-piece swimsuit, talking to him while I inflated the life jacket and put it on.

Gary: That’s insane.

Allie: It’s not really bad or anything.

Gary: It’s not bad. It’s just so specific.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: It’s crazy how brains work.

Anja: So specific.

Gary: You know where that comes from? It comes from when we’re kids.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: Maybe he was drowning as a kid and a lifeguard had to save him or something. Somehow the wires got crossed, and next thing you know he wants to see you wearing a life jacket.

Allie: Right.

The Baby Oil Request

Gary: What about you? What’s your weirdest request?

Allie: I was trying to think. It’s not really that weird, and I’m sure I have more, but one guy wanted me to completely drench myself in baby oil.

Gary: Which is…

Allie: Fine, you know? Whatever.

I’m cool with that as long as I have it on hand, and as long as they’re okay and willing to tip me. If they’re nice and not super demanding, I’m generally fine with it.

The Most Complicated Custom Request

Allie: I talked about this during my interview, too. When I first started camming, I had a guy who wanted me to remember five girls’ names.

One of them was his babysitter, and the rest were girls at a park who he had apparently gotten in trouble with.

His babysitter supposedly bent him over her knee, pulled his pants down, and started spanking him with her belt.

Gary: Oh.

Allie: And I had to memorize all of that. I wish I could remember exactly what I had to say, but I had to call him a bad boy, tell him he was being bad, and remember all the girls’ names and everything.

Anja: It’s interesting how spot-on these things have to be for people. It has to be perfect. Like the blue swimsuit and the life jacket. People have very specific fantasies.

Allie: Yeah. I mean, I had a crush on my babysitter, but I got over it, I think.

Anja: Maybe you just can’t remember.

Allie: I don’t know, man.

Why Custom Videos Are So Specific

Anja: Is that how it is with most customs? Are people usually that specific about what they want?

Allie: For customs, yeah. They can be very specific.

Anja: You probably get a lot of customs, right?

Allie: Usually they’re pretty specific. During cam shows or private shows, once in a while you’ll get someone who’s just like, “Enjoy yourself. I want to watch you having fun. Do what you want.”

But with customs, they’re paying for a specific customized video.

Anja: Right.

Allie: They’re paying for it, so of course they want it to be specific.

Anja: All right, that makes sense now.

Allie: Yeah. And when they tell you to enjoy yourself or ask, “What do you want to do?” I get so caught off guard.

Anja: Yeah.

Allie: Because when do we ever get asked that?

Anja: It’s pretty rare.

Allie: It sounds like a shitty question because I’m sure you’d rather go get a cup of coffee or watch the latest episode of The Office or something.

Anja: If this was 2013.

What Allie Loves About Camming

Gary: Do you enjoy what you do? As a whole, do you enjoy it?

Allie: Yeah. I love it. It’s the best job I’ve ever had.

Gary: Is that mostly because of the clients you get and the freedom?

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: And the money?

Allie: That too.

Gary: Freedom, man. You can’t beat that, right?

Allie: Yeah. No more going into work late all the time and dealing with all that. You can set your own schedule.

I’ve always been a night owl, but working during the day would be hard. Trying to coordinate that with preschool pickup and drop-off and everything, I was just like, “I can’t do this.”

The Awkward Possibility of Being Recognized

Gary: It could be awkward when you go into elementary school someday and the principal says, “Hey, I think I’ve seen you somewhere. I can’t place it, though. Where have I seen you?”

Allie: That would be hilarious.

Anja: In the state I live in, I don’t expect that to happen.

Gary: Good.

Researching the Camming Industry

Gary: Do you frequent Reddit? Cam Girl Problems, OnlyFans Advice, those kinds of communities?

Allie: Oh, yeah. All the time.

Before I even started camming, I spent about two or three months researching and pouring over everything I could find.

Gary: Research.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: I fucking love research. I’m big on research. Everyone should research. If you’re going to go balls deep into something, research.

Allie: Exactly.

Gary: There’s so much information out there. It’s stupid.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: You can Google almost anything.

Allie: Right.

The Darker Side of Online Adult Work

Gary: That’s what I was getting at with Reddit. You read about all the horror stories.

I remember seeing a post where a girl was being threatened. Someone told her they had all her pictures and were going to send them to her family if she didn’t do something they wanted.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: People are ridiculous.

Allie: Those stories are stressful to read because most of them are probably just people trying to scare someone into giving them free stuff.

Gary: Free stuff. That’s what everyone wants, right?

Allie: Exactly.

Gary: But even if they don’t actually do anything, that’s still stressful.

The Biggest Stress of Camming

Gary: What’s the most stressful thing in your camming world?

Allie: Probably just juggling everything and staying organized. I’ve never been very good at organizing my own schedule and doing it efficiently.

That’s something I’ve been working on. But that’s probably the most stressful thing right now.

Camming Platforms and Finding What Works

Gary: You mostly go on Chaturbate because they already have a built-in audience, right? You don’t have to worry as much about promoting yourself?

Allie: Yeah. Not too much. The traffic is pretty good.

Gary: You’re independent, right? You don’t go through an agency?

Allie: Right.

Gary: What do you use besides Chaturbate?

Allie: Mostly Chaturbate and Stripchat. I’ve tried CamSoda and kind of tried Cam4.

After my new tag was up on CamSoda, it was weird. Nobody would ever talk.

I’d have all three sites going at once. On Stripchat and Chaturbate, people would be going crazy and we’d all be having a good time. On CamSoda, it was just crickets.

Multistreaming and the Technology Behind It

Gary: How does streaming on three platforms at once work for you?

Allie: I use OBS. I also use something called Camo, and I use Krisp for my audio.

I just started doing that, so hopefully it sounds good.

Gary: Krisp audio?

Allie: Yeah. It helps with background noise because my brother has a fan on all the time.

The Challenges of Shooting and Editing Content

Gary: You edit your own stuff and everything? Do you like that part of the game?

Allie: No.

Gary: No?

Allie: I do not like that.

Shooting content can be hard for me. I have to mirror my screen onto my TV so I can see myself because otherwise I’ll be way over here, completely out of frame, and not even know it.

Then editing is hard. I obsess over editing. I’ll edit something, delete it all, and do it again.

Gary: After editing, do you ever get to the point where you’re like, “There’s still stuff I could do, but I think it’s all right”?

Allie: Yeah. I try to get it to a point where I feel like it’s good, but I always think I can improve everything.

Gary: Right.

Allie: I hyperfocus on it. I have this idea in my head of what I think should happen, and I just keep working on it.

Gary: And then you get to the point where you’re like, “There’s more I could do, but I don’t know how.”

Allie: Exactly.

Gary: Then suddenly six hours have gone by.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: That’s why I think streaming is the best.

Why Streaming Can Be Easier

Gary: If you can just stream, there’s no editing. What you stream is what you stream, unless you’re cutting clips or something.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: You can’t sit there obsessing over everything. You’ve got to pay attention to your viewers.

Allie: Exactly. And I get distracted. I’ll forget all about checking myself on the TV.

Gary: That’s why I always do it. When I used to shoot content, I’d always have to make sure I was in frame because you’re so focused on what you’re doing that you don’t know where you are.

Then you look and realize, “Oh, I’ve got to come back over here. Nobody can see what I’m doing.”

Managing DMs and Chat

Gary: Is streaming your favorite thing out of everything you do?

Allie: I think so.

Gary: Especially because it’s just you with your fans. Chaturbate people are pretty chatty, right?

Allie: They are. They’re chatty-chatty.

Gary: Do they hit you up in your DMs?

Allie: Yeah. A lot of the time they’ll want to send me private messages, and I’ll tell them, “No, please just talk to me in tip notes and in the public chat.”

I can’t juggle all that.

Gary: On Chaturbate, can people just privately message you for free?

Allie: Yeah. On Chaturbate, you can send DMs without paying.

You can pay for access to my Snapchat or Fansly, but otherwise you can just log in and see what’s going on.

Gary: That could become a problem if you have a ton of people messaging you while you’re trying to keep up with the chat.

Allie: Exactly. That’s why I say no PMs.

Rating Requests and Setting Boundaries

Gary: On Stripchat, you can charge for unsolicited dick pics, right?

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: I love that.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: So I have to send you money and then send the dick pic?

Allie: Yes.

Gary: Because the whole point is that you rate it, right?

Allie: Right.

Gary: What’s your rating system?

Allie: One to ten.

Gary: Me too.

Anja: I think I ask them whether they want an honest rating or if they want me to just flatter them.

Gary: Right.

Allie: Exactly. I have separate menu options. They can choose an honest dick rating or a humiliation rating, depending on what kind of experience they want.

If it’s unsolicited and I’m feeling kind of nasty that day, I’ll have some fun with it. But I don’t normally tell someone they’re a one or a two unless that’s what they’re actually asking for.

Domination and Humiliation Requests

Gary: Some guys like to be bullied.

Allie: Right. A lot of them love that. They want you to talk shit to them, belittle them, call them names, tell them they have a small dick, and tell them it isn’t going to amount to anything.

Gary: Do you guys like that part?

Allie: It is fun. It’s a nice, refreshing change once in a while.

Every day is different, which is something I like, but I don’t get asked for a lot of domination stuff.

So when I do, I’m like, “Yes, let’s do it.”

Gary: What about you, Anja? You seem like you like kicking some ass.

Anja: I do get a lot of domination requests, so I enjoy that part.

It can get a little monotonous being asked to do the same thing over and over again, but for some reason my groups of people can change.

One day I’ll get a group of people who want one particular thing, and the next day it’ll be something completely different.

I enjoy that part, although sometimes I find it hard to be mean to them if I’m not already in that mindset. I’m more of a gentle Dom, softer.

More Specific Fetishes and Boundaries

Anja: Do you get requests for race play?

Allie: I’ve been asked for that. I won’t do race play, and I won’t call anybody racial slurs. I don’t want to do that.

But I do get requests involving the big black dildo I have.

Gary: What about other weird stuff? Like somebody wanting you to pretend you’re a specific type of character?

Allie: I haven’t had anything like that yet.

Gary: Just wait. It might happen. You never know.

Allie: Guys are always surprising me.

Gary: You’re still pretty new, too. You’ve only been doing this for about a year.

Allie: Right.

Gary: You’re in the beginning. Shit’s about to go down.

Allie: I’m in for it.

Gary: That’s the attitude you have to have in this game.

Allie: Absolutely.

Allie’s Advice for New Cam Girls

Gary: What advice would you give to other cam girls who are just starting out?

Allie: Definitely do what I did and research the shit out of it.

Before you start, read what other girls have asked about and talked about extensively. Then just try it out. Go for it and stick with it as long as you feel like it’s for you.

And if it’s not for you, don’t feel like you have to stick with it. You can stop.

Your life will not be ruined just because you tried camming for a couple of months.

I feel like a lot of people worry about what it will mean for their careers afterward, and I’m just like, “Go for it. You’re fine.”

Concerns About Adult Content Being Online

Gary: That’s a good point. Do you worry about your content being out there on the internet?

Allie: No, not at all. I’m fine with it.

I can’t foresee a future situation where I’m not going to be able to explain it.

Gary: There’s nothing to explain.

Allie: Exactly. It’s nobody’s damn business.

Gary: Everyone’s different. Some people want that stuff scrubbed.

Allie: It depends on what you plan on doing later on. You never know what you’re going to do. Things might change.

Adult Work and Employment

Gary: There are also situations where people can face discrimination because of doing adult work.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: I was watching a documentary about OnlyFans models, and there was a woman in England who was a big OnlyFans creator. She ended up suing her old employer after they fired her for starting an OnlyFans.

Allie: I don’t get it either.

Gary: She wasn’t harming anybody. It’s her choice what she wants to do.

Allie: I feel like people’s private lives or adult lives shouldn’t really affect their careers that much. It’s just because it’s stigmatized.

Gary: Right.

Allie: I think as time goes on, that stigma will probably simmer down.

A Tangent About Changing Social Attitudes

Gary: The whole thing is weird because attitudes toward things change over time.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: Society goes back and forth on what it considers acceptable.

Anja: That’s true.

Gary: We could go way off topic with this.

Allie: We already are.

Gary: Yeah, we’re definitely off topic.

Allie’s Growth After One Year

Gary: The craziest part of all this is that you’ve only been doing this for a year, and you’re skyrocketing up the charts.

Allie: I know. Thank you. I’m excited.

Gary: It’s awesome to see. You put yourself in the right situations.

Allie: I think the research helped, too.

Gary: I think so, too. There are girls who just go in guns blazing without knowing what they’re doing.

Allie: Yeah.

Gary: Have you had moments where you thought, “Maybe this isn’t going to work”?

Allie: Sometimes. But ultimately, I get over it pretty quickly.

Dealing With Bad Days

Gary: Why do you think you get over it?

Allie: Confidence.

Gary: You get confidence problems?

Allie: Yeah. You start thinking, “I had a bad day yesterday. I didn’t make much money, so I’m ugly.”

You don’t actually believe that, but that’s how you start feeling.

Gary: Right.

Allie: Or you have technical problems. You have to teach yourself how to do all this stuff.

You might be following a guide somebody wrote about setting up OBS and connecting everything, but it’s written for somebody who is more tech-savvy than I am.

Some days, it gets frustrating.

Gary: Oh, yeah. I know about that.

Learning the Technology

Gary: When I started YouTube, I knew nothing about technology. I think I still had a flip phone at that point.

Allie: That’s bad.

Gary: It was bad. But I taught myself, upgraded things, and just kept going.

Like you said, sometimes you have bad days. Things don’t work and you get negative about everything.

You just have to get through it.

If something is working, even if it’s something small, you have to keep doing it. It’s all trial and error.

You try again, you keep trying, and eventually things pick back up.

You have to keep that positive mindset.

Finding Encouragement in the Audience

Gary: When you go into the chat rooms and guys tell you you’re hot, they’re not lying, right?

Allie: Right.

Gary: That’s one step.

And if you’re making some money, that’s another sign that something is working.

There are billions of people in the world. If a few people are paying to see your content, there’s probably an audience for you.

It’s all about numbers.

The Famous Couch

Gary: I mean, you were on the fucking couch, man. The casting couch.

I still can’t believe it. When I saw that, I was blown away. I was like, “I’ve seen that couch before.”

That’s one of the first things I remember seeing on the internet.

Allie: Thank you.

Gary: Of course, I was searching for porn the first time I got on the internet. What else are you going to search for?

Anja: Porn.

Gary: Exactly.

I’m super proud of you for that. That’s fucking awesome.

Allie: Thank you.

Gary: The fucking casting couch.

How Allie Found Cam Girl Diaries

Gary: It’s been an honor having you on the podcast.

Allie: Thank you. It’s nice to meet you, too.

Gary: I wanted to ask you one last thing. You said you found the podcast during your research. How did you find the show?

Allie: During all my research, when I found out what cam modeling was and started learning everything I could about it, one of the first things I found was this podcast.

I’ve been watching it since.

It was really helpful for me to see cam girls actually talking about the real things they’re going through.

You ask questions that would pop up for most of us at some point, and you get them answered. You also get all the different perspectives.

It’s just a good thing.

Gary: I’m glad to hear that.

Anja: I agree. It was the same for me. I was trying to make myself more knowledgeable about camming before I started, and I listened to the podcast.

It was really nice hearing and seeing you guys talk about real-life situations and what actually goes on. It kind of prepares you for what you’re going to face in the future.

Gary: It’s crazy hearing everyone’s stories because everyone has a different story.

I’ve never heard the exact same story twice.

Everyone comes up a different way, and I guess that’s just how life is. Everyone has their own story.

But, of course, my favorite thing is hearing the weird shit.

Wrapping Up

Gary: Allie, thank you so much for coming on today. It was fucking awesome.

You’re only a year in, and to me, you’ve already made it. I think you’re at the top, and you’re only going to keep going up from here.

Allie: Thank you.

Anja: It was so nice meeting you. Congratulations on everything. I hope everything continues to go wonderfully for you.

Allie: Thank you. Thank you guys for having me.

Gary: Absolutely. Take care, and let’s talk in like a year. I want to hear your next casting couch story.

Allie: Okay. Deal.

Gary: Nice. All right. Take care, Allie.

Allie: Thank you, everyone.

Gary: See you next time, guys.

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